Talk:Bosniak nationalism

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Separate article for Bosniak nationalism

Bosniak nationalism is very different from Bosnianism, the former is an ethnic nationalism, the latter is a regionalist nationalism, Bosniak nationalism is a unique ideology and should have it's own page. Charles Essie (talk) 03:36, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that these are two terms which are almost diametrically opposed. However, the inclusive "Bosnianism" is not really a "nationalism" at all since its defining feature is the idea that regional identity should override ethnic (i.e. "national") affiliations. Hence this article should really talk about Bosniak nationalism, which is in sources often called "Bosnian nationalism" interchangeably. Timbouctou (talk) 20:55, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since this article, in its present form, is about Nationalism of Bosniaks, it should be renamed in accordance to its content and moved from its present title: Bosnian nationalism to its correct title: Bosniak nationalism. It is true that Bosnian nationalism is a Territorial nationalism, centered on Bosnia. And it is also true that Bosniak nationalism is an Ethnic nationalism, that is present not only among Bosniaks in Bosnia but also among Bosniaks in Serbia, Montenegro and other countries that have Bosniak minority. Unfortunately, in this moment, on Bosniak Wikipedia there are no articles about Bosnian nationalism = "Bosanski nacionalizam" and Bosniak nationalism = "Bošnjački nacionalizam". Also, it should be noted that Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats also have their distinctive forms of regional "Bosnian" nationalism and therefore the title Bosnian nationalism should not be used for an article that describes only the Nationalism of Bosniaks. Sorabino (talk) 04:23, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree Only small number of Serbs and Croats in Bosnia and Herzegovina are pro-Bosnian. Others (90%) want secession and do not support Bosnia and Herzegovina. That's why their nationalism can't be called Bosnian. Only supporters of Bosnian patriotism/nationalism are Bosniaks. --Munja (talk) 23:33, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, they aren't the same, at all. The language part is literally the only thing they have in common. If you identify as Bosniak in Bosnia and Herzegovina, you are considered one of the constituent peoples and can run for presidency. If you identify as Bosnian, the constitution treats you like the others along with Jews, Roma etc. and you CAN'T run for presidency.--Killuminator (talk) 21:07, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to Bosniak nationalism. Bosnianism is another concept.--Zoupan 21:15, 9 September 2016 (UTC) This account is involved in sockpuppetry. --Munja (talk) 23:33, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. Bosnian and/or Bosniak nationalism are the same thing. One is interconnected to another. Content from this article corresponds to content of the other article. --Munja (talk) 14:43, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, content that was in Bosniak nationalism article was literally copied from this article. That can only say there is no difference between these two concepts, only two different names for the same thing. Same thing they tried with Bosnian language and Bosniak language - two name for one concept. I would advise all users to remove this mess user Zoupan made with his sockpuppet accounts. Two other nations in B&H, Croats and Serbs are already mentioned in articles about Croatian and Serbian nationalism, and categories are also there: Category:Croatian nationalism in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Category:Serbian nationalism in Bosnia and Herzegovina. --Munja (talk) 23:33, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bosnian nationalism or Bosniak nationalism ?

It seems that two very different subjects are still being mixed and confused in this article: for example, current leading section practically defines "Bosnian nationalism" as nationalism of ethnic Bosniaks, which is quite absurd, since there are clear distinctions between "Bosnian nationalism" and "Bosniak nationalism", first being a territorial nationalism relating to Bosnia, while second being an ethnic nationalism relating to ethnic Bosniaks. In perspective, there is a need for two separate and greatly improved articles, one for "Bosnian nationalism" and other for "Bosniak nationalism". Present mixture is quite incorrect and obviously misleading. Sorabino (talk) 03:01, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This article is criminally uninformed. Bosnian nationalism and Bosniak nationalism are two utterly different things. The only common thing between them is that they both identify their language as Bosnian. Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats are treated by the constitution as constituent people and if you identify as Bosnian for your nationality, you are considered as others with every other conceivable nationality. Bosniaks consider Bosnian as merely a regional identity much like something like Muscovite, Hoosier, Californian, Denverite etc. Bosnian as nationality is more of a civic form of nationalism, something like American. --Killuminator (talk) 21:05, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 May 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 10:42, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bosnian nationalism → Bosniak nationalism – This article discusses Bosniak, not Bosnian, nationalism. All participants on this page agree that those are two different things. Even the lead section of the article itself says that "Bosniak nationalism" "should not be confused with Bosnian nationalism". Vanjagenije (talk) 07:49, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The title should reflect the content of the article. Sorabino (talk) 08:39, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The article exclusively deals with the cultural unity and maintenance of Bosniaks. Although this is often manifested through support for a united and centralised Bosnia and Herzegovina, it is not 'Bosnian' nationalism, which does not feature heavily at all in contemporary political discourse. LeoC12 (talk) 10:41, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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